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Post by dabiri on Jun 20, 2022 10:40:39 GMT
The machine fail bicarbonate limit test during preparation, ENDLF sensor raise to 14.3 and above while the BICLF remains at 0.4mS/cm. I have use both canister keg and salt cart the reading remain the same. Also try to running the acid through the bicarbonate dip stick to confirm the functionality of the bicarbonate sensor at TSM mode the bicarbonate sensor reads 0.3mS/cm value remain the same while the acid sensor reads 14.3mS/cm. The bicarbonate sensor was replace the DF block also change this does not affect the value. I then interchange the bicarbonate pump with acid conc pump this does not have effect reading.
The technical reading
BICLF 0.4mS/cm
ENDLF 18.5mS/cm
ENDLF_S 19.0mS/cm
BICP 300rpm
BICP_S 300rpm
BIC RATIO 0.8
BIC_S RATIO 6.5
KP. 19rpm
KP_S. 20 rpm
END RATIO 41.7
ENDS RATIO 31.0
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2022 11:21:00 GMT
Well, it's odd that ENDLF is reading super high and BICLF is super low. What are your temps reading?
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Post by joey on Jun 20, 2022 18:04:00 GMT
Does it read .3 when the pumps are not running or does it fall to 0?
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Jun 20, 2022 19:24:01 GMT
IMNSHO (in my not so humble opinion), NONE of the numbers make any sense at all! Is there water flowing from the drain hose?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2022 10:14:35 GMT
Do u check the male connector of the bicarbonate suction tubing that sometime blocking the solution.
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Post by dabiri on Jun 21, 2022 16:00:44 GMT
The temp detail are as stated
TSE. 35.6
TSHE.35.8
TSBIC 34.2
TSD. 34.3
TSD_S 34.3
There is water flow from the drain, also confirm no blockage at bicarbonate male connector.
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Post by dabiri on Jun 21, 2022 16:03:42 GMT
The BICLF reads 0.3mS/cm while the pump is running at maximum speed at almost at 300rpm.
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Post by joey on Jun 21, 2022 16:32:47 GMT
The BICLF reads 0.3mS/cm while the pump is running at maximum speed at almost at 300rpm. Yes.... but does it drop to 0 if the pumps are not running ? Also.... is your machine set to 37 degrees Celsius?
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Post by dabiri on Jun 22, 2022 15:47:12 GMT
The BICLF readings at 0rmp of bicarbonate pump speed is 0.3mS/cm even when it running at almost 300 rpm is still within 0.3 to 0.4mS/cm.
The temp reading.
TSE 43.3°c
TSHE 46.3°c
TSBIC. 40.6°c
TSD. 41.2°c
TSD_S. 40.9°c
KP. 20 rpm
BIC. 300rpm
ENDLF 15.6mS/cm
BICLF 0.3mS/cm
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2022 16:11:54 GMT
TSHE should never be higher than TSE. Also the temps for TSBIC, TSD and TSDS are off from eachother too. You should start by recaling all of your sensors.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Jun 22, 2022 17:37:20 GMT
I agree with Admin, you have something going wrong with your temperatures. However, I think its more than just a simple calibration.
If I'm not mistaken, if TSD hit's 41C, shouldn't the watchdog kick in and issue a high temp alarm?
I'm guessing that the software version is < 9.1B and may be having the temperature issue that it was designed to correct.
If BIC is truly drawing bicarb at 300 rpm (which I think is high) then the BICLF is dead also.
KP at 20 rpm giving a final conductivity of 15.6 mS/cm? Something is definately wrong here too.
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Post by joey on Jun 22, 2022 18:15:22 GMT
I agree with Admin, you have something going wrong with your temperatures. However, I think its more than just a simple calibration. If I'm not mistaken, if TSD hit's 41C, shouldn't the watchdog kick in and issue a high temp alarm? I'm guessing that the software version is < 9.1B and may be having the temperature issue that it was designed to correct. If BIC is truly drawing bicarb at 300 rpm (which I think is high) then the BICLF is dead also. KP at 20 rpm giving a final conductivity of 15.6 mS/cm? Something is definately wrong here too. Yeah and no alarm for the 20 RPM 15.6 which is more concerning. On version 8.30 I do see 300 RPM when it is sucking air on a broken wand or something. Also when you swap the pumps you screw up your stroke value so that's another issue. At this point I would do all the internal stuff you would do during a PM in regards to temp/pressure/conductivity starting with the stroke values on all three pumps. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 22, 2022 19:00:50 GMT
The machine is seeing 300 rpms because the BICLF is showing 0. 300 rpms is the max it will spin.
The temperature has a direct effect on the conductivity, if the temp is high, the conductivity will be high. Adjust the temps first and recal them all and see what you come back at. We'll all take it from there.
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Post by dabiri on Jun 23, 2022 16:47:02 GMT
Increase in temperature will definitely increase the conductivity , the ENDLF significantly increased beyond limit but BICLF remain constant at 0.3mS/cm.
What could have been the cause of this constant value, the bicarbonate sensor was replaced without any change in value. The flow was also monitor for free flow.
Kindly advice on what can be done.
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Post by Admin on Jun 23, 2022 17:10:50 GMT
With an ENDLF at 18, with KP spinning at 20 rpm, it sounds like the cal of ENDLF is way off. Either that or something else is going on.
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