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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 13, 2024 16:59:35 GMT
We are having a number of people posting under multiple names. A couple have even posted questions and responded back and forth with themself. I know some people want to remain anonymous for one reason or another but, that can still be done just by not using your name. A valid email address is required but you can set in your preferrences that it can't be seen. We do have at least one registered member that uses 2 different registered names so nothing is full-proof.
I don't think non-registered people can respond to polls so I am leaving this open for comments.
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Post by SrCusEngr on Apr 15, 2024 0:36:54 GMT
RenalWeb had problems, too. That's what a moderator is for, isn't it. Not to be critical, but there was a problem in one Group (Water), and it was dealt with.If guests can't post, then what? It is supposed to be a free forum for all. Notify abusers nicely, and if they continue, block them. My 2 cents, for what it is worth.
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Post by stuff on Apr 15, 2024 14:14:53 GMT
I can see both sides of this. People wont register and the help declines, or randoms cause "issues"
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Post by neonblur on Apr 16, 2024 20:09:30 GMT
Does the majority of help come from registered users or unregistered? I see a lot of guest questions but, at least in the threads I have posted or followed, haven't seen much help from the guests. The majority of quality answers seem to be from registered users. I'm sure there have been exceptions, this is strictly from what I have seen.
It could always be done for a trial period to see how it goes, if there is a great decline it can be opened back up.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 16, 2024 20:46:44 GMT
Does the majority of help come from registered users or unregistered? I see a lot of guest questions but, at least in the threads I have posted or followed, haven't seen much help from the guests. The majority of quality answers seem to be from registered users. I'm sure there have been exceptions, this is strictly from what I have seen. It could always be done for a trial period to see how it goes, if there is a great decline it can be opened back up. I just glanced at a handfull of threads that had a fair number of posts and your thought of registered users being more helpful looks pretty accurate, with a couple of exceptions. The exceptions do however appear to always post using the same username and they are posting good information. Those are the ones I would hate to lose.
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Post by neonblur on Apr 17, 2024 11:40:40 GMT
Does the majority of help come from registered users or unregistered? I see a lot of guest questions but, at least in the threads I have posted or followed, haven't seen much help from the guests. The majority of quality answers seem to be from registered users. I'm sure there have been exceptions, this is strictly from what I have seen. It could always be done for a trial period to see how it goes, if there is a great decline it can be opened back up. I just glanced at a handfull of threads that had a fair number of posts and your thought of registered users being more helpful looks pretty accurate, with a couple of exceptions. The exceptions do however appear to always post using the same username and they are posting good information. Those are the ones I would hate to lose. Yeah, I figured there were a few exceptions...it would be a shame to lose them. I wonder why they don't register since they are using the same username. Maybe a post could be made asking those users directly if they would like to register since they provide valuable information.
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Post by phillipashleyludlow on Apr 17, 2024 16:04:40 GMT
I mean, let’s be honest, it’s obvious what side of the fence I sit on with this. I think guests viewing is fine, but posts should be authored by someone that is registered.
In most reguards, just about any issue anyone has had, has been pondered over at least once in the fourm, and if someone wants to remain "anon" then they will be free to view the works of others, if they feel thay have something to contribute to the great opius that is this fourm, they should step forward so to speak, to let their voice be heard.
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Post by BMF on Apr 18, 2024 13:07:30 GMT
I can see both sides as well. I tend to agree with SrCusEngr, but I also understand why you would want to limit the posts to registered members.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 19, 2024 12:05:13 GMT
Out of curiosity, what are the objections to registering?
A few have said that they "can see both sides". What is the side of not registering? It can't be to stay anonymous. All of the people who have posted on this thread are registered. Myself and phillipashleyludlow (I guess that's his real name) are the only ones that aren't anonymous.
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Post by kendec65 on Apr 19, 2024 12:27:32 GMT
I as well can see both sides. We had an issue many years back with Renalweb where a group of three of us worked and we only had one central computer. We all had our own names registered but the moderator thought it was one person being a dick and booted us. How can you prove this isn't the situation? I have popped on here as a guest when I was on the road and forgot my password.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 19, 2024 13:05:16 GMT
I as well can see both sides. We had an issue many years back with Renalweb where a group of three of us worked and we only had one central computer. We all had our own names registered but the moderator thought it was one person being a dick and booted us. How can you prove this isn't the situation? I have popped on here as a guest when I was on the road and forgot my password. Again....What is the benefit of not registering? If there are multiple people using a single computer, I would hope you are discussing the problem in person and not taking turns on the computer going back and forth. There are red flags that we notice that prompts us to look into things, we don't routinely look at the IP address or anything. Like I said, there are red flags that individually may not mean much but the frequency that they appear or the number of them flapping in the wind may not quite be 100% but it's pretty close.
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Post by phillipashleyludlow on Apr 19, 2024 17:21:50 GMT
Out of curiosity, what are the objections to registering? A few have said that they "can see both sides". What is the side of not registering? It can't be to stay anonymous. All of the people who have posted on this thread are registered. Myself and phillipashleyludlow (I guess that's his real name) are the only ones that aren't anonymous. It is unless your from the gov't , in that case, he went that away ---->
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Post by kendec65 on Apr 19, 2024 17:56:30 GMT
First, my post did say we were all registered. It just happened to be for a large network and we would rotate, work different shifts and what not.
When I first started working on the Braun machines, I felt very intimidated asking questions as felt very chastised for not knowing the answer. Maybe this was my perception, but I would rather have remained anonymous, which I didn't.
I have a co-worker who would rather not use his name as he doesn't want people to find him. My point is, there may be a reason. As the moderator reach out to them and see what is going on - they may have an explanation. If they don't, do whatever you need to.
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Post by phillipashleyludlow on Apr 19, 2024 19:04:35 GMT
kendec65 The issue itself isn’t the anon or "actual" name, i feel its the ability for "guests" to just post, which often leads to dead posts that go unanswered, or just a whole convo of "guests" which cant really be followed if your searching for an answer( iv certainly forgotten threads and just went to someone’s profile to find where they posted to see the advice, its certainly helped me. *stares adoringly at stuff and pacnw * ) is one of the issues at the center of this. it all comes down to an accountability and general forum etiquette issue in my opinion. edit addon: regestering just "verifys" someone individualy, i realize someone could abuse that, just like anything in the world around us. but it helps keep the jusnk and spam out, or just someone doing something that prob shouldnt be. a good example was an thread a few weeks ago i felt like it was prob just a tech posting to "quick fix" a problem, that honesltly they neither answered, nor came back to, as well as other anons that was suspisously felt as though it was just a waste of time. the thread stayed, but i asked Admin if it could be taken down, and asked for prob the third time iv been on here if the mod group would consider requireing reg users, which i know has been brought up before. noone would care if you called yourself by an alais or your IRL name. it comes down to nothing more than a moniker, but one that everone knows "is you".
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 19, 2024 19:39:38 GMT
First, my post did say we were all registered. It just happened to be for a large network and we would rotate, work different shifts and what not. When I first started working on the Braun machines, I felt very intimidated asking questions as felt very chastised for not knowing the answer. Maybe this was my perception, but I would rather have remained anonymous, which I didn't. I have a co-worker who would rather not use his name as he doesn't want people to find him. My point is, there may be a reason. As the moderator reach out to them and see what is going on - they may have an explanation. If they don't, do whatever you need to. Ken Malesky - St. Luke's University Health Network - PA and NJ I know this is going to sound harsh though its not my intention but, you put it out there.... I know the early posts you're referring to and quite frankly you brought it on yourself by not giving complete information, not giving specific information you were asked for, giving conflicting information all which made it seem like you were playing some kind of game. As far as you staying anonymous, as far as I know you have been until you just posted your name. Remaining anonymous is not a valid reason for not registering as you are still anonymous unless YOU put your name out there (like you just did). As far as reaching out to unregistered people...how do you suggest that be done? At this very moment, there are 87 unregistered people viewing the forum. Since they're not registered, there's no email address or private message function to reach out to them. Ironically, this "poll" thread is open for comments and the only comments are from registered members. Looking at the first 50 registered users, 4 used a "first" name and only 1 used their full name. My point about that is almost everyone is still anonymous. My point about registering and always using the same name is....you learn who's help/advice you can trust. Case in point...SrCusEngr...He's registered but until just a couple months ago, I had no idea who he was but I did know that I could count on his help/advice being sound. "gnurk" is a very frequent poster on the Fresenius forum. He's not registered but has been posting here almost since the inception of the board and has ALWAYS posted as "gnurk". If I ask a question about a Braun machine and kendec65 suggests I try ABC and guest123 who posted as guest789 yesterday suggested I try XYZ....I'm going to try your suggestion. Being registered doesn't make your suggestion right but it does make it credible since by using the same username, you're "accountable" (for lack of a better term) for what you post. My purpose for this whole thing is to learn if there are any valid reasons for people not registering. So far, I'm not reading anything.
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