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Bicarb
Nov 8, 2021 16:23:03 GMT
Post by BicarbRoom? on Nov 8, 2021 16:23:03 GMT
When mixing a Batch of Bicarb, does CMS require a verifier besides the tech that is actually doing the mixing, rinse or bleach?
To put in context....We currently mix, rinse and disinfect our mixer, distribution tank and loop. We have a staff member responsible for this task but also require a 2nd staff member to make sure the tanks are clear of residual bicarb or bleach (whatever the case may be). Our staff has been running ragged over the last year and we have lost some. My employer and I are looking for ways to lessen the load. If we don't NEED to have 2 people say late every night to sign off, it will be one less day of the week that these techs would have to stay. I have looked thru the guidelines and I'm not seeing anything that says that it has to be done. I just wanted to ask all of you, incase I have missed something. It's possible.
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Bicarb
Nov 9, 2021 13:28:28 GMT
Post by Guest on Nov 9, 2021 13:28:28 GMT
Once patients are off- you don't need 2 people to clean and disinfect- prior to the start of your next start of treatments you need 2 staff members to verify the condo and the absense of disinfect
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Bicarb
Nov 9, 2021 13:39:39 GMT
Post by Chuck Weddle on Nov 9, 2021 13:39:39 GMT
Once patients are off- you don't need 2 people to clean and disinfect- prior to the start of your next start of treatments you need 2 staff members to verify the condo and the absense of disinfect While it's probably not a bad idea, I have not seen anything in the regulations stating this. Don't confuse company/facility policy and procedure with what is a regulation. |
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joey
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Bicarb
Nov 9, 2021 14:22:58 GMT
Post by joey on Nov 9, 2021 14:22:58 GMT
At our units one person tests for residual at night when complete then a tech tests it the next morn and an RN makes sure the test was performed before treatments begin. Make sure what you do is in a policy and you are doing what it says.
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Bicarb
Nov 10, 2021 5:30:15 GMT
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Post by jaretac on Nov 10, 2021 5:30:15 GMT
When mixing a Batch of Bicarb, does CMS require a verifier besides the tech that is actually doing the mixing, rinse or bleach? To put in context....We currently mix, rinse and disinfect our mixer, distribution tank and loop. We have a staff member responsible for this task but also require a 2nd staff member to make sure the tanks are clear of residual bicarb or bleach (whatever the case may be). Our staff has been running ragged over the last year and we have lost some. My employer and I are looking for ways to lessen the load. If we don't NEED to have 2 people say late every night to sign off, it will be one less day of the week that these techs would have to stay. I have looked thru the guidelines and I'm not seeing anything that says that it has to be done. I just wanted to ask all of you, incase I have missed something. It's possible. There is no requirements for two people to check similar to the 4 hour chlorine checks. Normally the person doing disinfect will check at night and then it is verified by another person in the morning. A chlorine check is required at the mix tank prior to mixing but cms doesn’t require a nurse or anyone else present for that. |
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Bicarb
Nov 23, 2021 23:12:17 GMT
Post by Big D on Nov 23, 2021 23:12:17 GMT
4 Hours Chlorine check needs two people the checker and the Verifier.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Nov 23, 2021 23:22:29 GMT
4 Hours Chlorine check needs two people the checker and the Verifier. This is a company policy, NOT an AAMI or CMS requirement. |
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joey
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Bicarb
Nov 26, 2021 14:05:09 GMT
Post by joey on Nov 26, 2021 14:05:09 GMT
There is no requirements for two people to check similar to the 4 hour chlorine checks. Normally the person doing disinfect will check at night and then it is verified by another person in the morning. A chlorine check is required at the mix tank prior to mixing but cms doesn’t require a nurse or anyone else present for that. This 1 and 1 testing works well because you can have the person performing the disinfect test for 0 residual the night of and then someone can test the morning after which is good because chlorine could come out of the filter overnight and be negative at night but positive the next morning. |
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