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Post by Snack Time on Sept 16, 2022 17:57:57 GMT
Hey Everyone,
I've gotten 6 machines pulled for bibag cond low/ high or filling in the passed month. A few showed flow errors that didn't seem to actually effect flow. These machines range from 2k - 14k hours. All of these problems are intermittent. It will pass tests, then bounce in conductivity until it gets back into stable TCD, but the banner will stay red. Occasionally, these problems will pop back up and occasionally stay until the machine is powered off and on. Brushes have been kept up with. Pressures are good on all. I've calibrated the bibag cond. cells & cond. cells on 4, re-set boards on all, checked for leaks, valve issues, ect. The only thing that obviously worked was pulling boards - but it seems so insanely unlikely that either an actuator or bibag interface board would go out at the same time on all 6 machines with varying hours. After re-setting boards and cables ill keep the machine running for hours and pass tests 4 times with no issues before shutting it off. But it'll get pulled days later. A couple things I've done/checked out on a couple with the same issues are BC membranes, heat exchangers, and bibag air separators. But there's nothing conclusive. I don't want to spend money on boards for all 6, and wondered if anyone's experienced anything like this? Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
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Post by Snack Time on Sept 16, 2022 18:01:59 GMT
* Forgot to add 4 are 2008Ts & 2 are new bluestars.
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Post by bimitiri on Sept 18, 2022 12:31:09 GMT
Some suggestions maybe focus on the bicarbonate flow path at this moment 1) Check the bicarbonate pump volume . 2) Check the spring in the bicarbonate pump 3) Is the temperature sensor working and calibrated correctly ? Especially the one in the heater, NTC2 4) is V101 working ? could be partially open causing wrong mixture in the bicarbonate
Hope this help .
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pacnw
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Post by pacnw on Sept 18, 2022 22:25:48 GMT
I'd check your loading pressure. When the machines run on Bibags there is a calibration that is done to fix bicarb cond high and low by adjusting the loading pressure to bring TCB(therorical conductivity of bicarb) inline with BIC MON.... by adjusting the pressure you adjust BIC MON to match as close as possible TCB. I believe the screen is tech screen 15(top left hand side of the screen) TCB, bic LOW, bic mon and bic high.... With a bag on you will see a value show up in BIC MON. You wont see it without the bag. Adjust the loading pressure to change the value of BIC MON to get as close to TCB as possible. Once completed verify your loading pressure is still within specs.... I usually adjust my loading pressure to max first then do the calibration from there meaning i can only turn it down or counter-clockwise. BIC LOW and BIC High are your alarm limits. Hope this helps
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Post by Snack Time on Sept 26, 2022 14:39:18 GMT
pacnw - I've verified the loading pressures on these machines. Thanks for the comment though. The difference between TCB and MON will be stable and within range, then occasionally drift and the bibag will go out of conductivity. I thought this may be a bad regulator, but so far that hasn't been the case.
I can say for sure that at least one of these machines had a bad bibag interface board - Even though it only has 4k hours.
Ill give fixes for the others as I narrow down these issues.
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Post by Chris on Oct 12, 2022 17:35:29 GMT
So far the issue for 2 of the clinics have been bibag o rings and transducers. 106 if I remember correctly. Also the distribution board under the UF pump can get wet and mess with valve 105 if you have a leak over the top of it
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Post by Snack Time on Mar 1, 2023 21:11:59 GMT
** FIX **
2 machines required new actuator boards, one needed a new bibag interface board, one needed both a new actuator and a new bibag interface board, one was fine after re-setting boards, and one was a loading pressure regulator issue or the bibag cable getting pinch (not totally sure which one fixed it).
Unsure exactly why i've had so many failing board issues. Possibly having dirty power - We don't have GFCI's in our clinic, or a GFCI type breaker box. The electric company was less than helpful. Not sure if that could really even affect them. Haven't found anything definitive, but with the huge number of boards all going out at the same time, it seems most likely to me. Extremely frustrating issue, but if any one has some insight on what could effect so many boards at once it would be a huge help. Thanks.
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