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Post by Newbie on Apr 8, 2022 14:19:06 GMT
Hello all. I'm new to bbraun machine hopefully someone can help me. I have a machine when you put it on dialysis mode i get low conductivity and I found out the bicarb and acid is not pulling or spinning. When I put it on rinse mode its working and I also went to TSM to manually put it on spin and its also working. Only when im on dialysis mode the bicarb and acid is not working, Any ideas???
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2022 14:29:40 GMT
What are your temps during dialysis? Can you list them here?
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Post by Newbie on Apr 8, 2022 14:50:54 GMT
Temperature
TSE-37.9
TSBIC-36.1
TSD-35.9
TSD_S-35.9
TSDE-28.8
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2022 14:53:26 GMT
They seem a little off. I Would expect them to follow just under the heater.
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Post by Newbie on Apr 8, 2022 15:06:44 GMT
It would also give me Bicarbonate cartridge not connected correctly and then it would go away.
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2022 15:09:53 GMT
Ah that helps.
Check DBK Spring and Disc, the Filter FBIC and the Y Connector before the bicarb pump - all 3 sides.
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joey
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Post by joey on Apr 8, 2022 15:11:57 GMT
They seem a little off. I Would expect them to follow just under the heater. Is the TSDE the extra sensor that allows the user to not need the phoenix meter to test conductivity? |
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 8, 2022 15:42:27 GMT
They seem a little off. I Would expect them to follow just under the heater. Is the TSDE the extra sensor that allows the user to not need the phoenix meter to test conductivity? No. TSDE is part of the 9.1B software upgrade. It was TSHE that was relocated because there could be major temperature issues with a failed TSD during the treatment and the machine wouldn't alarm until the temperature got up over 42 C. It was fixing the unclear wording in the IFU that everyone felt comfortable to stop testing the conductivity. AAMI has never recommended checking conductivity and deferred to manufacturer recommendations. The need for testing is actually a throwback to the days of manually mixing 120 liter batches of dialysate. |
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 8, 2022 15:43:51 GMT
Temperature TSE-37.9 TSBIC-36.1 TSD-35.9 TSD_S-35.9 TSDE-28.8 TSDE is VERY low. My guess is it has failed but at the very least needs calibration. |
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2022 15:51:25 GMT
Actually - TSDE_S is the TSHE sensor  |
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Post by joey on Apr 8, 2022 15:57:45 GMT
Temperature TSE-37.9 TSBIC-36.1 TSD-35.9 TSD_S-35.9 TSDE-28.8 TSDE is VERY low. My guess is it has failed but at the very least needs calibration. Ok so TSE and TSDE should be close temp wise hence needing calibration and my next question is do they get put next to each other with the meter in line to calibrate them simultaneously? |
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 8, 2022 16:05:47 GMT
Actually - TSDE_S is the TSHE sensor  After all these years I STILL have trouble with the damn German abbreviations! |
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Post by Admin on Apr 8, 2022 16:07:42 GMT
Chuck - Haha! Yeahhh it's crazy!
Joey - Yes and No, The old V9 way (weird to say that now) you had to do that yes, and move it to the front of the machine inline with FBK1. Now, you just take two clamps and bypass the Balance Chamber.
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Post by Chuck Weddle on Apr 8, 2022 16:09:08 GMT
TSDE is VERY low. My guess is it has failed but at the very least needs calibration. Ok so TSE and TSDE should be close temp wise hence needing calibration and my next question is do they get put next to each other with the meter in line to calibrate them simultaneously? So I don't screw up on the abbreviations again.....TSE is the sensor that is accessible behind the bottom front panel correct? That's the only one that needs to be calibrated by itself. Don't you have all Version 8's? |
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Post by joey on Apr 8, 2022 16:16:23 GMT
yeah all 8's I bring tshe up to tse and hook the meter in then calibrate them together. Mine are accessible from the back.
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